Testimonials
Extensive Reviews on BackpackGearTest.org
Scarp 1 review at TGO Magazine
Rainbow
review on gearview.com
Squall 2 review on Away.com
Rhett Paulson
Anchorage, AK
I received my Notch and have taken a weekend packing trip in the Georgia Appalachians near Neel's Gap. The Notch was perfect. We set up in rain without getting the tent interior wet at all. Your design is incredibly efficient, smart, and accomodating for the tent resident once inside. There is generous space exactly where needed without wasted fabric. Movement within the tent is comfortable due to your design and the ability to snug up the rain fly from within the tent is great when a rain blew up again in the night. I was camping low at a creek side with temps in the high 30's and upon rizing I couldn't find a drop of condensation under the rain fly. Excellant ventilation options. I got the half solid /mesh wall interior and was glad I did. It simply gives me more options with extending the hiking season and avoiding cold damp draft blowing over my head and down bag at night. I struggled with the decision of all mesh or half mesh here in Georgia, but after using the Notch and comparing to my trips with another brand solo all mesh interior tent, I much prefer the half solid interior.
The setup of the tent is a breeze and the trekking pole support structure gives the Notch a sturdy feel. I had packers that passed my site, come over and ask what tent this was...I guess it makes quite an impression. I' d have to add that the 2 entrance doors and the 2 big vestibules gave me total access and adjustability to stow gear, batten down one side against a changing wind/rain direction while leaving the other side open. With a directonal rain, I can see the option of adjusting one trekking pole to a lower height and snugging the tarp to the ground while leaving the other pole at its normal setting to maintain good airflow. Wow, the most adjustable, usable tent ever!
Thank you, Henry for such a smart, superlight, adjustable, and comfortable tent. I have backpacked all over the U.S including Alaska and in Canada for over 40 years and like many folks have experienced the evolution of gear and fabrics available for backpackers. I am 100% satisfied with my Notch and can't wait for my next trip in the mountains with it.
Henry Hibbs
Watkinsville, Georgia
I wanted to thank you for all your help and generocity with your time. Our family greatly appreciates it. We LOVE our Hogback. My husband used to be a buyer for Neil's Gap on the Appalachian Trail and is a bit hard to please (he's a total gear snob). He is also 6'4" and that makes for a bit of a cramped tent for him. Add in a 220 lb Mastiff, a 40 lb Doberman-mutt, a 7 year old, and myself and you have a bit of an interesting situation to try and gear up for. As a long distance backpacking family, we are all thoroughly happy with what you guys have done.
Pictures:
The Hogback is at Yocum Ridge on the Timberline Trail around Mt. Hood in Oregon.
The motley crew which is our family is pictured after completing the Big Loop around the Three Sisters in central Oregon. The Mastiff was just a puppy then, you tent still fits him now that he is quite a bit bigger.
Lastly, thank you so much for helping us in our son's wish to break the PCT thru hiker record. When we started backpacking with The Barracuda (as he is known most everywhere now) at 4 we never thought it would turn into this, but we are proud to support him wherever he decides to walk. He is a bit determined and has firmly decided we are going to do it. A smaller TarpTent is our last piece of gear. If you would like to see our progress in this endeavor, we blog about our family at Endofordinary.blogspot.com.
Happy Holidays!
Thanks Again,
Brynn Dahlquist
White Salmon, WA
Dear Tarptent
I and four friends just returned from a winter hike in North Carolina on the Art Loeb Trail. Our plan was to hike the entire 30 miles of the trail but a sudden unexpected (not forecasted) winter storm caused us to bail out early. I carried my Rainbow that I've owned for about a year and a half and my friend Patrick was carrying his just purchased Rainbow on it's maiden voyage.
Day one was cold but no problems. We woke on day two to heavy overcast skies and snow mixed with sleet. We hit the trail and after about an hour the storm moved in with a vengeance. 40-50 mph winds pounding us with horizontal rain and sleet. This along a 6,000 ft ridge top trail. We decided to make camp mid afternoon on the back side of a ridge to try and get out of the direct windblast in a small grove of trees, the only place we could see in the fog and wind. We pitched our tents and hunkered down inside them for the next 17 hours until the storm had passed. At first the wind was slamming the side of my tent so hard it would buckle and hit me in the face if I was sitting up. I decided to get back out in the storm and tie the tent to the tree beside me which solved the problem. Other than having to tie it off to a tree the Rainbow performed flawlessly in the most extreme conditions I've ever experienced in a tent. It never leaked, the rain/sleet/snow did not come in under the tarp which I was concerned about but it was never an issue.
Patrick was also impressed with how durable and how well his Rainbow performed. In those conditions you need equipment that will take a beating, because, in this case our lives depended on it.
Thanks for a great product,
Charles Hill
Grayson, GA
Here are few shots of the Double Rainbow in action at 12,600 ft on Lake Fork Peak in the Wheeler Wilderness, New Mexico. The lamb wouldn't leave the tent alone! She liked to bite and pull the arch pole and the bottom hem of the vestibule :)
Besides the abuse the little miss dished out, the tent also withstood four days and nights of high winds and heavy thunderstorms of rain and hail...absolutely no problems! Thanks for making a superb product, and please enjoy the photos
Your friend,
Adam Simms
Santa Barbara, CA
(photo at Parakai Campground north west of Auckland)
Thanks.
Susan Jackson
Aukland, New Zealand
I bought a Contrail from you last year. ( My mate bought a Moment in the same order.) The Contrail didn't get much use during our winter but I have just had the pleasure of taking it on a 10 day and then a 15 day summer hike. It was magnificent. Easy to put up. Heaps of space. Stood up to terribly strong winds that toppled trees in the vicinity. Kept me dry and was so easy to carry!
Congratulations on a truly superb piece of gear. I'd recommend this tent to anyone. Keep up the great work.
Cheers
Adam Croser
Hobart, Tasmania
The Moment is the first tent I've ever purchased, and honestly, for my needs, I don't see a reason to buy something else anytime soon. I have a feeling it will be with me for a long time to come. Just need to replace that pole -- how can I go about doing that, incidentally?
[Ed: Replacement poles can found under "Extras" in the webstore]
- Chris "Buck" Wilhelm
During our honeymoon in Hawaii, we used our Double Rainbow for the first time on a great backpacking trip on the Kalalau Trail on Kaua'i. It is a really tough hike and we were very happy that the Tarptent was easy to set up after the long journey in to the gorgeous beach where we camped. The tent was perfect for the two of us! We're really looking forward to using it again on backbacking trips closer to home on the East Coast this winter.
We're really happy we found your great product! Here is a picture of our camp spot under the waterfall at the end of the Kalalau Beach.
All the best!
Shane & Cheryl Rauch
Charles Town, WV
Hey Henry, just wanted to say thanks for building such quality, affordable products over the years. Been really enjoying my Contrail. Never seems to fail me.
Here's my campsite last October in Canyonlands...
Best wishes this year for you,
Dan Briggs
Valrico, FL
We actually didn't camp there - breaks the rules, too close to the water, not that there was probably anyone else within 100 miles of us. But we carried the tent down there to just to take a nice picture with it. Thanks,
Tom Ingling
Dallas, TX
Jack Elliott
Bakersfield, CA
Basically, all I want to say is this: "Thank you." The Rainbow is an excellent, simple product that performs wonderfully. It's funny; when I first started preparing for backpacking, I was always intrigued by ULers, but never thought I had the income to afford such a hiking profile. Now, you have made my push for lighter, more purposed gear an attainable goal. And on top of that, my wife is happy too! (I don't want to set up this binary where she is the comfort-oriented one and I am the Spartan--the truth is too complicated for those kind of oversimplifications.) Regardless, your Rainbow tent has performed beautifully, and I thank you for being involved in the lives of your customers and critics. Seriously, your presence on the BPL forums and your accessibility is a big part of what made me push for a TarpTent upgrade with my wife.
I'm sorry that this is long-winded. All I meant to say is this: "Thank you." Let us know if you are ever in Glacier or the Flathead. It's a beautiful place to be, and we are blessed beyond imagining to live here.
Join us if you can,
Clayton Mauritzen
Kalispell, MTLoving the Scarp II so far. Have been through spring snowfall in the Cascades and windy passes of the Coast Mountains of British Columbia and love the tent in every aspect--weight, sturdiness, ease of setup, the works. Regards,
Terry Woodburn
Portland, OR
Dave Orduno
Chico, CA
Rick Howell
Littleton, CO
I instantly set it up as soon as it was unpacked and, having briefly run through the included paper work, found it to be a no hassle setup. I seam sealed the tent and then packed it way for my first trip, which was on January 20th 2012. A hike along the Ohlone Wilderness Trail in the East Bay area of the San Francisco Bay. The trail travels from Mission Peak in Fremont to Lake Del Valle in Livermore Ca. Not hitting the trail head until 4pm on Friday night meant we would be camping just off Mission Peak that first night. This night would be the defining night for the whole trip. The sun soon set and as it did the weather quickly changed. Before my partner and I were to the backpackers camp site, the wind and rain were battering us so bad that we were leaning so far toward that had it not been for the wind we would have fallen on our faces. Less than this and we would of been blown over backwards. Upon reaching our site we quickly setup camp, even with the darkness, wind and rain the tent setup fairly easy. Had I lost my grip on it though it would quickly have blown away to be lost forever. I used the crossing poles for extra stability and they quickly proved their worth. The tent was extremely stable and kept us completely dry in pouring rain that for the most part was sideways due to the extremely strong winds.
After the first night the rest of the trip was a cake walk. Upon returning home and checking the weather recording station on the next peak over, I found out that the wind speeds were 43.5 mph with gusts up to 54.7 mph. Because of the first night, I am writing this review. I will never hesitate to recommend this American built product to anyone. If they decide to purchase another product then shame on them, because you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.
I will soon be buying the single man version of this tent, the Scarp 1. Keep up the great work and Thank You for a great product.
Chris Hyde
The Moment is the easiest tent I have ever erected, and even on impractical locations I found I could achieve a very good pitch. On this point, the floor of the Tarptents far exceeded the durability and waterproofing that I expected. For a shelter that weighs virtually nothing the interior space is very very large and long. My pack took up only half the vestibule which left the other half for easy access. One stormy night I was pitched in a wide open valley and found that the Moment handles gale force winds admirably and is not a noisy shelter to sleep in. Although possibly not required, I added two 1.5mm guy ropes most of the time, as I found the shelter moves from side to side in high winds.
I have found that once you have some experience with judging what the climatic conditions for the night might be, then it is easy to adjust the features of the Moment to suit. The two most relevant considerations in the Moment are adjusting for protection against cold wind on the one hand and managing condensation on still nights on the other. Firstly, the height of the side walls can be lowered to block on the windward side and either side of the shelter allow you to build a low wall of clothing etc to block the reminder of the wind. On nights when condensation would be expected, I found that if you promote all the venting options that the Moment provides, then this is not an issue. On sites where there is no air circulation, I did find that condensation does become a problem.
For a tent of this type ( 1 person single skin ) I cannot find a single flaw in the design, but would add that the top cap on the peg/stakes pull off quite easily when trying to remove them from hard compacted ground. This could be remedied by riveting the cap to the peg/stake. I also own the Scarp 1, which I plan only to use when the weather is colder. You will be pleased to know Henry, that I would like to purchase a Sublite Sil for shorter trips when rain is not predicted.
Nick Beer
Melbourne, Australia
Thank you for making an awesome tent in the form of my 1-man Rainbow! It was a home, a shelter, and a reliable comfort throughout my journey.
Blessings
Tristan Oliver AKA Shake 'N Bake
My PCT website
Santa Barbara, CA
Dane Ward
Rising Fawn, GA
Nick Gillespie
Anchorage, Alaska
My tent was dry and a great sanctuary from the elements when it came time to rest. Just what I was looking for. Plenty of room in my Scarp 2 for a 6'2" 285lb man and all of my gear. Also, my friends were envious of the fact I could flip my tent, air it out and then fold it down into my backpack in short order. I was packed ahead of everyone and used the extra time to them tear down.
You have a great product, and I love that it's made right here in good old USA. May your company grow leaps and bounds.
Sincerely,
Dan Drake
Powell, OH
Charles Hill
Grayson, GA
Thanks for making such a super product!
John Melville
Baltimore, MD
I wanted to let you know that I had a chance to use my new Contrail this past weekend. I took a 3 day trip into the Pecos Wilderness located in the Sangre De Cristo Mountains north of Santa Fe, NM. I practiced the set-up and take down a few times at home, after seem sealing, and thought it was a breeze. However, it wasn't until I was setting up at the same time as my "tent friend" that I realized how easy it really was. I had it fully pitched before he had the pole in his tent. The next morning I had it back in my pack before he had his rain fly off. My buddy came down with a severe case of tarp envy. The Contrail is very convenient to use and has plenty of room to spare inside. I need the comfort of bug and critter protection, and can't imagine a better tent than the Contrail for the weight, volume, and ease of set-up. Also, the Pecos Wilderness is exceedingly muggy this time of year due to frequent and heavy thunderstorms. Nevertheless, I had zero condensation inside due to the great ventilation.
Thanks for the Contrail, it has really improved my backpacking experience.
Scott
Albuquerque, New Mexico
I bought a Rainbow Tarptent last November and actually used it for the first time on December 1st. Four of us went up a trail near Snoqualmie Pass, Wa. expecting 3" of snow overnight. What we got was actually closer to 5'! The Tarptent withstood the load! This adventure turned into a 4 day rescue ordeal and we were in a pickle to put it mildly. Everything we had was wet, all of our clothes, our bags, tents etc., we were cold, I got frostbite and eventually lost a toe. The four of us survived in one 2-man tent while the Tarptent held all of our gear snug and secure. When we finally got rescued, my gear, along with the Tarptent was cached on the mountain. I considered this gear to be lost and a litter recovery mission at best. Yesterday, 9 months later, my gear was recovered and the Tarptent had withstood this test of time on the mountain with no damage whatsoever. It was actually slept in for the second time last night and it is as new. There is a slight mildew odor in the stuff sack from being packed wet for so long along with wet dirty clothes but was not noticeable when pitched. This was money well spent. Thank you for making such a great product.
Chris Van Over
Marblemount, WA
I purchased a Rainshadow 2 tent a few months ago and I just want to tell you how thrilled I am with this tent. I have used it twice in the Montana Beartooth Wilderness and once in the South Dakota Black Elk Wilderness. It is easy to set up, easy to pack, has room for three with plenty of gear storage, and has a great vestibule design. The waterproofness of the silnylon is superb as I experienced on the last trip with my teenage son and daughter. I made the mistake of choosing a very attractive flat spot for pitching the tent that was also a low spot. We had an hard thunderstorm early that evening that resulted in at least 3/8" of standing water in places under the tent from runoff of the surrounding rocks and high ground. The amazing thing was the standing water did not penetrate the tent floor and we stayed completely dry! We joked about the "water bed" we were sleeping on until the water finally soaked into the ground after several hours.
I have owned several tents over the past 40 years but never one as water-proof or as well designed as the Rainshadow 2. It holds up great in high elevation (10,000 feet) winds, ventilates well (even in the mid-day sun!), provides good headroom (we sat up and played card games for 2 hours in the rain one evening), and the tent is spacious for three and incredibly luxurious for two. I also really like the flexible vestibule design that can be opened up for ventilation or closed in a few seconds for cool weather and rain. Combined with the ultra lightweight I don't think this tent can be beat for functionality at any price. Our backpacking trips this year have been more enjoyable thanks to the Rainshadow 2.
If I ever wear this tent out I will certainly purchase another one from you. Thank you for designing and manufacturing such a great tent.
Kind regards,
Frank Schaner
Billings, MT
I don't have a fancy photo of the tent that I can send to you, but more than one fancy memories of using it. Keep up the good work!
Dirk Bernhardt
Berlin, Germany
Then I met a couple of guys on Avery Peak in the Saddleback Mountains, Maine. They fiddled with my tent showing me how to add guy lines, pulling the tent walls out, making them taut. We used rocks instead of stakes. They were puzzled with the way the line on the front, left side was attached. They thought the design bad. I contemplated taking that line apart and fiddling with it but I am a knuckle head and would no doubt make it even worse. After that, although it took extra time to set up, my tent improved with the extra guy-lines and I rode out some major thunderstorms.
Later, in Vermont, I hiked into camp and found that there were two other hikers with Tarp Tents! We could have made a nice advertisement for you. Sky Dog had a Contrail like mine and his was set up so beautifully I asked him to look at my tent. He noticed the left guy line was tied incorrectly and redid it. Since then the tent worked splendidly. My Contrail went off the gear issues list and onto my FAVORITE equipment list.
It took me 166 days to hike the entire AT from Maine to Georgia and my favorite nights were the nights I slept under the stars in my Contrail. I pitched it in the rain, on high peaks in the wind, brushy stealth spots along the trail and even in the snow. It is a palace of a little tent. Good Times! Thank you for a great product.
Yours,
Birdy AKA
Karen Mansfield
Chicago
I've attached a picture of our tent in 100 mile wilderness in Maine. A beautiful sunrise after a thundery night. Congratulations to you all. You make a wonderful product and provide exceptional service. Best Regards,
Ron Gaulden
Charlotte. NC
I took the Contrail out again this past weekend on a four-day backpacking trip through Shenandoah National Park. It was great to have such a light shelter compared to the heavier ones my friends were lugging around. One of them actually admitted to having "tarp envy" because the Contrail was lighter AND roomier than his "ultralight" tent. I also appreciated the quick and easy set-up, which allowed me to help the others with their tents. The Contrail rocks! I can't wait to use it again.
Thanks again. Keep up the good work.
Jared Nudd
Laytonsville, MD
The Rainbow worked well. In Northern Minnesota in the second week of May, we had snow, light rain, sleet, hail, and heavy rain during a five day hike on the Superior Hiking Trail. My dog and I stayed perfectly dry. A photo of the snow is attached. A well thought out tent in my opinion.
Craig Mueller, P.E.
Windom, MN
Thanks again Henry. Much appreciated and much impressed. (by the way, thanks for seamsealing it for me too, we got a whole nights rain on our third night and stayed completely dry. The cloudburst 2 is brilliant. Sincerely, Jared Nelson (of Nebraska - not Idaho)
:)
Best regards,
Cliff Hardin
"Cliffhanger"
AT '90- Pct '03-CDT '05
Scott Aiken
Gray Court, SC
I was relieved to find the front and rear extended beaks did in fact actually stop the rain and spray. Conditions were 20-25 mph winds and rain which fell sideways at times. My partner was in his Eureka Zephyr (1 man-3.4 lb) and when it came time for dinner and coffee he didn't have enough cover to enjoy himself or prepare his meal. Day three came to a close with us on an exposed ridge in a driving snow storm. I offered to share my home with my friend who makes a living flying fuel, people and various goodies around up in Alaska. Needless to say when dawn came next I found three inches of fresh snow above us and we both just marveled at your creation. Thank you again to you and your staff. Have a great Holiday and Merry Christmas to all.
Mike McMullen
White Bluff, TN
As it turned out we encountered about 9 hours of non-stop rain that came down in every intensity from drizzle to torrential downpour, mostly the later and in every direction imaginable. I hadn't even seam sealed the seams yet, but the Squall 2 withstood both the intense rain and the wind keeping us dry and secure. It also housed both of us very comfortably along with our backpacks. I spend an awful lot of bag nights out there and this shelter truly impressed me. Keep up the good work.
Kent Struble
Mesa, AZ
I am saving up right now to purchase the Squall 2 in about a month. My girlfriend loves to camp with me and it would be perfect for us. I am planning my dream hike thru of the AT in '07 and this is the tent I want with me.
I wanted to drop you a line and tell you how impressed I am with your product. Simply fantastic and I am looking forward to getting one of my own!
Thanks,
Garvin Carrell
Rolla, MO
Dick Hostelley
Stanley, VA
Thanks again for a great nights sleep in a terrible storm.
James Lyles
Bronx, NY
I used the Squall every night on the trail but one when
I slept out. I was in a motel
about 4 nights total. So, around 78 nights. I would often hike
late and sometimes in the dark. I set the Squall up
on rocks, bushes, at weird
angles, etc. To be honest the floor should have ripped
a dozen times. The flooring
on the tt is bulletproof. If you saw the locations
I setup in, you would have cringed ... I expected
it to rip at least a dozen
times. You must have given me kevlar but mistake.
[Ed: Congratulations
to Ray for breaking
the PCT speed record!]>
Best,
Ray Greenlaw
Savannah, GA
Although I usually camp with my son, this trip was solo, and the size and headroom of the Cloudburst were a real luxury. My 6'6" sleeping bag was easily accommodated and I had plenty of room for all my gear. The large panel of mosquito netting at the front affords a nice view while still providing bug protection. And, the silnylon body diffuses the morning light beautifully. When rolled up, the tent fit nicely into the side pocket of my GVPgear G5 tent. Also, I used the rear aluminum pole sections (which are wisely designed by you to be 20 inches in length) to stiffen my folded Thermarest Ultralite pad (also 20 inches in width), which I then used as the frame for the Gossamer G5 backpack.
Lastly, your customer service was spectacular. All my (many) questions and concerns were answered along with many useful tips on ultralight backpacking.
Best wishes for continued success.
Doctor Bob
Palo Alto, CA
Thanks again.
Eric Salisbury
Eugene, OR
I could not ask for better performance. Thank you.
Don Kolstad
Santa Barbara, CA
feet!
Molto mahalos,
Dr. Jon-Pierre Michaud
Hilo, HI
Thank you for a superb product. It will be my companion on my AT thru hike next year.
Jan Matson
Rochester, MN
In my mind I knew what I wanted, but I couldn't translate the desire into reality. I'm not sure how I found your website—it was quite by accident. Instantly I realized that this was what I wanted: Easy to set up, rain protection, bug protection, ultra-light, reasonably priced. So I ordered.
I must add—the Tarptent exceeded my expectations. I read the instruction sheet that came with the tarp and it only took me 2 min. 15 sec. to set it up the first time. I slept in it the last 2 nights just to test it out. I was really surprised at how much I like the color, the way it diffuses the light in the morning, gently rousing me from sleep. With the netting around the perimeter, I had no little buzzing sounds around my ears keeping me awake. I'm usually hiking solo, but I decided on the Squall since I like to bring my pack inside for the night. It's a perfect size.
Again thanks so much for the Tarptent. I'm glad someone was able to translate my desire into the perfect product.
Eric Bissey
Bourneville, OH
Regards,
Chris KnaptonUnited Kingdom
John Macri
Outdoor Gear Writer & Moderator for The Lightweight Backpacker
[Ed: the '03 Tarptents now have excellent rear storm protection]
We had to pack up our gear the next morning in the tent, as it was still raining outside. This was a little tricky due to the low roofline. The solution was to crawl down to the foot-end of the tent and watch the storm while my wife packed up. I felt like a little kid in a fort. The Tyvek ground sheet worked expertly, as I'm sure you already know. When it was time to pack the tent, everything else was already ready to go. The tent is so small, it can go anywhere in your pack, so there is no need to pack around it or make room for it. We just crawled out into the now dying rain, and popped the tent into a little duffel bag, and away it went into the top pocket of my pack.
We love the tent. 4 Stars. A+++, AAA, and all that. Thanks Henry. You revolutionized our hiking experience.
Ron and Erika Snyder
Wenatchee, WA
When I picked up the latest Backpacker and their selection of innovative ultralight tents, I just had to write a letter to them. What they selected I've used but your product is in a completely different league.
Thank you for your well thought-out and worked-through design- it is making my wilderness adventures that much more enjoyable.
Cheers!
Doug JohnsonSeattle, WA
Mike Askins
Aurora, OH
Thanks so much!
Aloha,
Cary YoungKula, HI
Thanks again for the great product.
Tom Krizay
Reston, VA
We survived Shasta, barely. It's nothing I would ever recommend to anyone - a pile of loose rubble 14,000 feet high! The maiden voyage of my new Tarptent Squall was highly successful. My 6'2" brother and I shared it and never bumped shoulders. The floor-to-netting connection meant we could really spread out without us or our gear falling out of the tent, and the normal camping-grit coating the floor received eliminated any worries about excess slipperiness. The netting kept out bugs and even dust, while providing us with ventilation and a fine view of the moon rising over the flank of Shasta (when we woke up at 2 a.m. to begin the ordeal). The Squall provided more floor space than my old "ultralight" tent, at much much less packing volume and much much much less weight, and was the envy of all passers-by. Congratulations on a great design and precision construction, too!
Frank Cipriano
San Francisco, CA
Thanks for a great shelter.
Don Clark AKA Goose (2K AT thru-hiker)
Orange Park, FL
By the way, I think you are under priced for the quality of your tent. I saw several other tents on the web that were obviously knockoffs of yours priced in the $200 to $250 range. All the best and thanks again for making such a great tent!
Mitchell F. Keil, CFP
Fountain Valley, CA
Jackie McDonnell
Overland Park, KS
Thanks for all your help.
Mark Bartechko
Encinitas, CA